@andre Yes, I tried to avoid naming it with this name in case it was still copyrighted. better to be safe than sorry later and get all this work removed because of a complaint for copyright 😅
But so many video games, so many books used 'Mimic' that it is probably a standard bestiary/monster name by now (eg. recently in Frieren, but also this type of Treasure can be found in old Snes game like Secret of Mana). Thank you for the Wikipedia link, very cool to read more description.
Cette nouvelle série est désormais très prometteuse. Quelle est ton idée derrière le format carré des planches? Tu ne te coupes pas l'herbe sous les pieds pour une éventuelle diffusion papier relié?
@oliviersaraja Merci! Le format carré, c'est juste pratique pour une consomation directe sur les reseaux sociaux; ça passe et en écran de PC/laptop, et en mode mobile à la verticale. Pour une publi papier, on verra; mais je pense à un petit format comme un manga carré. Ca serait sympa à bouquiner. Mais oui, ça marchera pas dans un album classique A4 BD couleur avec couv en dure, mais pas trop grave... Web first et community first 😉
FYI on the alt-text (not intended as criticism): that particular type of monster is generally known in English as a "Mimic" given that they 'mimic' treasure chests. And in panel two she throws a bone 'at' the mimic, not 'to' it ('to' implies she's intending for the mimic to catch it, while 'at' implies she wants to hit it with the bone).
For some reason this reminds me of "The Luggage" from Discworld... (basically a mimic that acts like a very overprotective dog, and also happens to function like a self-propelled larger-on-the-inside luggage trunk)
@becomethewaifu Thank you. yes, the Luggage reference is wanted (Discworld fan here 😉 ). The Mimic is a DnD name at origin (so copyright?) but the creature exist in many fantasy games, anime, and books. That's why I prefered to avoid this name. On a personal note: I like the versions in Dragon Quest or in Secret of Mana.
Honestly calling it a mimic is perfectly fine, because names are generally handled under trademark, not copyright, and trademark almost always requires that a mark not be 'generic' or 'purely descriptive'. And given that calling "a monster mimicking a thing" (treasure chest, chair, etc.) 'a mimic' is about as descriptive as you can get, any attempt at 'enforcement' would likely be grounds for sanctions against the lawyers that filed it with how purely-descriptive it is.
Now the term 'Hobbit' on the other hand, that was made up by Tolkien, and his descendants are dead set on keeping that trademark/copyright money-train going as long as they're legally able to, which is why almost everything else uses the term 'halfling' instead (which predates DnD by "a few centuries", and is thus also free to use)
@becomethewaifu I have a hard time believing that any reasonable person would think the name "mimic" is copyrightable. Might not even be trademarkable.
Unfortunately corporate legal teams in general, and WoTC's in particular, aren't known for being reasonable. You probably made the right call.
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Nartance
@touhoppai Merci ! J'ai cru quand même que ça allait être un peu heavy en termes de gag à référence, mais ça a l'air de bien passer. (Alicja ne connaissait pas ce genre de monstre, donc elle trouvait ça gentillet, mais sans plus, limite un peu gratuit).
@Kallekatt13 I'm so happy many got the reference 🐢🐘🐘🐘🐘 . That's the closest thing I can do without doing a copyright infringement an inventing my own luggage-like creature. ☺️
Do you have these hosted somewhere that I could give as a more permanent link than a mastodon reference? This is delightful and I’d like to share it with someone.
@CliftonR Thank you! Right now, I just have a tag on my blog https://www.davidrevoy.com/tag/minifantasytheater , but I'm starting to think about a dedicated website with all sources, translations, etc... I'll post about it as soon as I have something, but it might take time.
Thank you! I tracked it down on your website in the meantime, but it would be great if you included a shareable link with the Mini Fantasy Theater posts because I keep feeling compelled to share them.
(In this case to my kid who’s both a D&D player and a Pratchett fan.)
@TheLostSorcerer Hey, I wish; but my blog system is a bit of an older age and I don't manage its code base. I would need to get a way to enter multiline alt text and a system that encode the characters like " or anything that can jailbreak the alt="" tag attribute. It's not simple, but it is noted.
The future MiniFantasyTheatre website will have it (alt text are already part of the metadata that goes along episodes in my brainstorming) I'm working on that.
@BetaRays Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to describe a comic page made of multiple panel and speech bubbles in a single line... I wish the article took into account this use case (or the case of alt for infography with many text and/or large diagrams).
Maybe it would be fine with a single line but multiple sentences? In any case, if you think screen readers will do a better job with multiple lines, do use multiple lines.
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Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org run after women and they'll collar me, i see i see
:cherri_study:
Ray_Of_Sunlight@mastodon.social
@Stellar Nah, you'll end in jail.
Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
@Ray_Of_Sunlight@mastodon.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org :akko_sad2:
Ray_Of_Sunlight@mastodon.social
@Stellar Sorry that's the hard truth, we men are antagonized for just being men -_-
Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
@Ray_Of_Sunlight@mastodon.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org i am because i'm a public danger and i kill women and i am evil
doctormo@floss.social
mime-type: animal/pet
★davidrevoy
@doctormo 😍 🤣 🤣
6 ★Arioch
I want a pet mimic now
7 ★chakatfirepaw@universeodon.com
@Arioch
I'll tell you one thing: They're easy to feed for a while, just teach them to copy an Amazon package.
★cptcv@mamot.fr
c'est du poirier savant ?
#pratchett
HighlandLawyer@mastodon.social
@cptcv
Et maintenant je sais les mots français pour "sapient pearwood". Merci.
stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
This is basically Frieren :blobcatjoy: lovely comic
greensofshade@mastodon.social
@stefan its discworld 🤔 companion of Rincewind
https://terrypratchett.com/book-categories/the-luggage/
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andre@fedi.jaenis.ch
On looking up why you might not have called it a Mimic I learned that that would be a DnD monster:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimic_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
I recall from your LibrePlanet talk a couple years ago that you respect copyright.
davidrevoy
@andre Yes, I tried to avoid naming it with this name in case it was still copyrighted. better to be safe than sorry later and get all this work removed because of a complaint for copyright 😅
7 ★But so many video games, so many books used 'Mimic' that it is probably a standard bestiary/monster name by now (eg. recently in Frieren, but also this type of Treasure can be found in old Snes game like Secret of Mana). Thank you for the Wikipedia link, very cool to read more description.
andre@fedi.jaenis.ch
If you read the article carefully you'll notice that it can't be a DnD mimic: it has no issues with sunlight.
yuki2501@hackers.town
@andre Both Delicious in Dungeon and Frieren already use the word "mimic". At least in the subs.
davidrevoy
@yuki2501 @andre True. It's probably safe.
★andre@fedi.jaenis.ch
I'm perplexed by panel 4.
andre@fedi.jaenis.ch
There's no street gutter like they had in medieval towns because sanitary sewer's weren't developed yet 🤓
★charadon@8bit.red
Ah yes, the Minecraft method of taming =P
★oliviersaraja@mamot.fr
Cette nouvelle série est désormais très prometteuse. Quelle est ton idée derrière le format carré des planches? Tu ne te coupes pas l'herbe sous les pieds pour une éventuelle diffusion papier relié?
davidrevoy
@oliviersaraja Merci! Le format carré, c'est juste pratique pour une consomation directe sur les reseaux sociaux; ça passe et en écran de PC/laptop, et en mode mobile à la verticale. Pour une publi papier, on verra; mais je pense à un petit format comme un manga carré. Ca serait sympa à bouquiner. Mais oui, ça marchera pas dans un album classique A4 BD couleur avec couv en dure, mais pas trop grave... Web first et community first 😉
5 ★drekles@twoot.site
Cute dog
★lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza
I'd say that that was the Luggage, but there are no legs.
https://wiki.lspace.org/The_Luggage
jargoggles@kolektiva.social
The Luggage vibes - https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Luggage
davidrevoy
@jargoggles Perfect 🙂 That's indeed a little cameo in disguise (for copyright reason).
9 ★jargoggles@kolektiva.social
Legally distinct baggage creature.
davidrevoy
@jargoggles Yep, good dogo-like-treasure CC-BySa Creature :D For future video games derivations maybe.
6 ★becomethewaifu@tech.lgbt
FYI on the alt-text (not intended as criticism): that particular type of monster is generally known in English as a "Mimic" given that they 'mimic' treasure chests. And in panel two she throws a bone 'at' the mimic, not 'to' it ('to' implies she's intending for the mimic to catch it, while 'at' implies she wants to hit it with the bone).
For some reason this reminds me of "The Luggage" from Discworld... (basically a mimic that acts like a very overprotective dog, and also happens to function like a self-propelled larger-on-the-inside luggage trunk)
davidrevoy
@becomethewaifu Thank you. yes, the Luggage reference is wanted (Discworld fan here 😉 ).
7 ★The Mimic is a DnD name at origin (so copyright?) but the creature exist in many fantasy games, anime, and books. That's why I prefered to avoid this name. On a personal note: I like the versions in Dragon Quest or in Secret of Mana.
becomethewaifu@tech.lgbt
Honestly calling it a mimic is perfectly fine, because names are generally handled under trademark, not copyright, and trademark almost always requires that a mark not be 'generic' or 'purely descriptive'. And given that calling "a monster mimicking a thing" (treasure chest, chair, etc.) 'a mimic' is about as descriptive as you can get, any attempt at 'enforcement' would likely be grounds for sanctions against the lawyers that filed it with how purely-descriptive it is.
Now the term 'Hobbit' on the other hand, that was made up by Tolkien, and his descendants are dead set on keeping that trademark/copyright money-train going as long as they're legally able to, which is why almost everything else uses the term 'halfling' instead (which predates DnD by "a few centuries", and is thus also free to use)
★linebyline@bytetower.social
@becomethewaifu I have a hard time believing that any reasonable person would think the name "mimic" is copyrightable. Might not even be trademarkable.
Unfortunately corporate legal teams in general, and WoTC's in particular, aren't known for being reasonable. You probably made the right call.
★Nartance
📎 f2ad78ec100e0611.mp4 9 ★
davidrevoy
@Nartance 😆 😆 😆
4 ★Twisted666@dobbs.town
I'm thinking DISCWORLD 1, 2 for the PS1...
davidrevoy
@Twisted666 👍
★jacklaridian@horrorhub.club
Love it!! I had an NPC like this who had a pet mimic that stayed in the form of an over-sized backpack. 🥰
nosaj@aus.social
Was more than half expecting a Frieren face first into the mimic meme panel
datenwolf@chaos.social
is it made from sapient pearwood?
davidrevoy
@datenwolf 😉 Yes.
3 ★🐢🐘🐘🐘🐘 📀
Aviva_Gary@noc.social
cool
★yuki2501@hackers.town
The real treasure is the mimics we found along the way 🥰
mousey@seattlematrix.org
they're all good mimics, bront.
★Gords@mastodon.zaclys.com
Il est en poirier magique ?
davidrevoy
@Gords Oui :blobaww: 🎇🐢🐘🐘🐘🐘🎇
★touhoppai@sakurajima.moe
Il est adorable :)
Très bonne idée ce crossover discworld !
davidrevoy
@touhoppai Merci ! J'ai cru quand même que ça allait être un peu heavy en termes de gag à référence, mais ça a l'air de bien passer. (Alicja ne connaissait pas ce genre de monstre, donc elle trouvait ça gentillet, mais sans plus, limite un peu gratuit).
Kallekatt13@mastodon.social
Literally just the luggage from Discworld. Albeit, a bit less murderous than the luggage.
★davidrevoy
@Kallekatt13 I'm so happy many got the reference 🐢🐘🐘🐘🐘 . That's the closest thing I can do without doing a copyright infringement an inventing my own luggage-like creature. ☺️
★Kallekatt13@mastodon.social
I love Discworld, even tho I often feel like I've read too little of it.
★Kaedu00@bantu.social
Very cute
★baltakatei@twit.social
I know itʼs meant to be a mimic, but I canʼt help but think it is a chest made of sapient pearwood. https://wiki.lspace.org/Sapient_pearwood #discworld
davidrevoy
@baltakatei yes, it's a crossover 😉
★BrilliantIdiot@gaygeek.social
Adorable as always. :ablobcatheart:
★PsyChuan@plush.city
someone who appreciates it more than Rincewind!
★5ciFiGirl@starbase80.wtf
Adorable! 🥰
★aral@mastodon.ar.al
Gorgeous :)
★ExpertPlus@mementomori.social
Lol, I love it!
★justin@toot.io
#camelCase hash tags please. 😀
davidrevoy
@justin Right, I'll try to remember about it!
★decius@mastodon.scot
I shared that with my players. I get back “yes yes YES YES YES”. They’ve been wanting a pet mimic for four years!
★werefox@yiff.life
YES
YESSSS
★jacket@tech.lgbt
Reminds me of chester from don't starve.
★xalofar@mastodon.tedomum.net
Je suis certain que Frieren serait heureuse de voir ça...
Et Fern complètement dépitée 😂
( Frieren étant un manga où l'héroïne principale se fait toujours avoir par les mimiques)
★SenseException@phpc.social
You know that treasure chests can contain rare grimoire? Ignore the spell that can tell if a chest is a mimic or not. It's just 99% accurate. #frieren
★kiwired@mastodon.nz
#Adorable
★physicman@mstdn.jp
can we see the influence of the Luggage from the Discworld series? 😉😄
davidrevoy
@physicman Oh yes, big time! 🐢 🐘🐘🐘🐘 😉 👍
★CliftonR@wandering.shop
Do you have these hosted somewhere that I could give as a more permanent link than a mastodon reference? This is delightful and I’d like to share it with someone.
vv221@fediverse.dotslashplay.it
You can find the Mini Fantasy Theater series here: https://www.davidrevoy.com/tag/minifantasytheater
CC: @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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CliftonR@wandering.shop
@vv221
And thank you, as well!
davidrevoy
@CliftonR Thank you! Right now, I just have a tag on my blog https://www.davidrevoy.com/tag/minifantasytheater , but I'm starting to think about a dedicated website with all sources, translations, etc... I'll post about it as soon as I have something, but it might take time.
★CliftonR@wandering.shop
Thank you! I tracked it down on your website in the meantime, but it would be great if you included a shareable link with the Mini Fantasy Theater posts because I keep feeling compelled to share them.
(In this case to my kid who’s both a D&D player and a Pratchett fan.)
davidrevoy
@CliftonR Noted! (And cool kid, you are lucky!)
★TheLostSorcerer@mastodon.art
Is it possible to have the Alt-Text available on your site as well?
davidrevoy
@TheLostSorcerer Hey, I wish; but my blog system is a bit of an older age and I don't manage its code base. I would need to get a way to enter multiline alt text and a system that encode the characters like " or anything that can jailbreak the alt="" tag attribute. It's not simple, but it is noted.
The future MiniFantasyTheatre website will have it (alt text are already part of the metadata that goes along episodes in my brainstorming) I'm working on that.
★BetaRays@p.changeme.fr.eu.org
I thought multiline alt text was a bad idea?
I think I remember it from this article: https://adrianroselli.com/2024/04/long-alt.html
davidrevoy
@BetaRays Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to describe a comic page made of multiple panel and speech bubbles in a single line... I wish the article took into account this use case (or the case of alt for infography with many text and/or large diagrams).
BetaRays@p.changeme.fr.eu.org
Maybe it would be fine with a single line but multiple sentences? In any case, if you think screen readers will do a better job with multiple lines, do use multiple lines. ★
memento@snowmans.land
omg no don't fall for it it's a mimic
★gh0sti@mastodon.social
Diablo 3 pet right there
★mytwobits01@freeradical.zone
Is this a metaphor? It feels like a metaphor.
davidrevoy
@mytwobits01 There is one, yes, but not one I want to express with words. 🙂
★tiefton@mastodon.art
Very creative! A tamed mimic would be a fun pet :)
★zizudraws@mastodon.art
Awesome! ^^
★greensofshade@mastodon.social
Discworld 🥰
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